Museveni, Byanyima discuss regional peace in a rich man's conference in Davos, Switzerland.
Officiating. President Museveni addresses a breakfast meeting on shaping Africa’s Agenda during the World Economic Forum in Davos, Switzerland, on Wednesday as Winnie Byanyima looks on. PPU PHOTO
25 January, 2019
By Misairi Thembo Kahungu
Kampala. President Museveni and the Executive Director of Oxfam International, Ms Winnie Byanyima, have held talks on the need for security and political integration in the East African region.
Ms Byanyima, a known critic of President Museveni’s regime, is wife to key Opposition leader, Dr Kizza Besigye, who has contested for presidency four times against the incumbent and is currently battling treason charges in court.
“Today (Wednesday) I met Uganda President Kaguta Museveni and discussed regional integration; promoting peace and security in East & Horn of Africa. We agreed that ordinary people need economic integration and will increasingly push their leaders to build a common market,” Ms Byanyima tweeted.
Ms Byanyima, a former Member of Parliament for Mbarara Municipality and strong critic of the NRM regime, is also a founding member of the Reform Agenda, the predecessor of Forum for Democratic Change (FDC) party.
The historic meeting between the two rival politicians was held in the snowy Swiss city of Davos during the World Economic Forum summit attended by leaders across the globe.
Mr Museveni and Ms Byanyima discussed a range of issues mainly on regional integration, security and peace.
However, Ms Byanyima did not indicate whether she met Mr Museveni at the session on Africa Economic Agenda, which she moderated, or thereafter.
The session discussed integration, human capital, infrastructure and financial matters in Africa.
It was attended by President Museveni, Rwandan president Paul Kagame, South Africa’s president Cyril Ramaphosa, Egyptian Prime Minister Mostafa Madbouly and Tunisian Prime Minister Youssef Chahed.
President Museveni’s twitter handle informed Ugandans of his participation in the session, saying he cautioned other leaders to “avoid a uni-dimension approach in shaping Africa’s future”. He also cited a series of bilateral discussions he held in Davos but was completely silent about his meeting with Ms Byanyima and their discussion on regional peace and integration.
Bilateral talks
President Museveni has openly campaigned for the African Integration in order to have a common market and bargaining power for the continent.
He is a key advocate for the Federation of East African Community.
Away from the Banyima interaction, Mr Museveni tweeted about his bilateral talks with other world leaders on the sidelines of the World Economic Forum 2019 in Davos.
He met with the founder and executive chairman of the World Economic Forum, Prof Klaus Martin Schwab to whom he presented Uganda’s request to host the next forum.
“We discussed a range of issues, including the global push for the 4th industrial revolution, though I insist that gaps of the 2nd and 3rd revolutions in places like Africa must be plugged for proper development to happen. I also told him Uganda is ready and willing to host the next World Economic Forum on Africa.
The last forum was held in South Africa. It will be an honour to host a meeting of such significance,” Mr Museveni tweeted.
He also said he had held separate talks with Belgian Prime Minister, Mr Charles Michelthe, and the Executive Director of the World Food Programme, Mr David Beasley. The meeting with WFP boss focused on strengthening cooperation between Uganda and his agency.
The deputy presidential press secretary, Ms Lindah Nabusayi, yesterday shared photos of Mr Museveni braving the snow to walk to his hotel alongside his daughter Natasha Karugire.
In Uganda, the President has introduced an African Robin Hood budget for 2018/19 so that he can go to heaven for helping the poor:
Despite the seriousness involved, the President’s speech was littered with humour and rib cracking local proverbs that left many people in the audience with teary eyes.
First Lady and Minister of Education and Sports, Janet Museveni, President Yoweri Museveni and the Speaker of Parliament Rebecca Kadaga walk to the Kampala Serena Hotel gardens for a reception shortly after the State of the Nation Address on Wednesday 6th June 2018. PPU PHOTO
Most of the government officials in the past have been caught on Cameras either dossing or chewing gum.
But now President Yoweri Museveni has learnt the art of keeping them awake especially during his long speeches. The state of the nation was not different.
Despite the seriousness involved, the President’s speech was littered with humour and rib cracking local proverbs that left many people in the audience with teary eyes.
After stepping on the podium, the President’s voice did not sound as usual due to flue. He immediately sent for tissue. Realizing that there was silence in the room as he cleaned the nose, he tried to break it and said, “I had a cold but I defeated it.” Some members of the opposition shouted, “How? When you are still sneezing.” The president said he did not understand what they were saying.
The President informed the audience that because of electricity, he has discovered that some people have built factories in swamps.
“I see them. It’s better to have factories in the swamps than mayuni (yams). It should not have happened but God is there,” he said.
During the ceremony, he wondered why people drive so fast and end up causing accidents. The President caused murmurs in the room when he defended his convoy on speed.
“Why over drive? Where are you going? People wonder why I don’t allow my vehicles to move very fast,” he said as murmurs filled the room. “If you see them over speeding, know am not there because I regard myself useful,” he said as murmurs increased.
To as if rest their doubts, he said, “Ok may be when I am late for the head of state that is arriving at Entebbe Airport.”
He complained that some Africans reach a point and get tired of life.
“Africans behave as if they are tired of life. Everything that comes kills them. Alcohol kills them, women kill them. Everything good kills them. Africans die from good and bad,” he said sending the audience into prolonged laughter.
He was also angry that some leaders seek popularity and fail to sensitize their voters on income generating activities.
“You sit with them, share straws at Malwa joints that you are a people’s person. You say mubewo (long live). God one day will ask you why your neighbours were poor when you were okay. Better listen to my message because I need my slot in heaven,” he said.
He applauded the people in Kiruhura district who have taken his message seriously and got involved in income generating activities.
“Because of the transformation, they are no grass thatched houses or Tadoba (hurricane lamps) unless you go to the museum,” he said as the audience laughed.
Speaking in the local language, the President said, in some areas, he meets people and greets them. “ Mulimuta (how are you) they say turyaho (we are there). I ask them what are you doing? They say Turyaho (we are there). I ask them where do you get money? They say, do we see it? So what do they do?” the President asked as he threw his arms in the air.
The President said they then go and spend time in church expecting miracle wealth. “Some priests then come and smear them with oil. Really? Some Africans.” He said as cameras zoomed on Pastor Joseph Sserwadda in the audience.
He informed the audience that some people were trying to rash the financing and building of the Standard Gauge Railways project yet he wants to first scrutinize the several offers.
“With such projects am very careful. I have got many offers. Some people are not happy with me because am delaying them. They want me dead but God is there, Lubangake,” he said.
On government’s investment in Sports, the President admitted but said the support has mainly been indirectly.
“Some people say we have not invested in Sports but these people like Joshua Cheptegei who recently won a gold medal, where would they be if cattle rustling were still there?” he asked.
Elaborating government’s challenges with some of the donors, the President cited the recent clash with World Bank for the Kamwenge- Fort portal road. The World Bank cut off funding after an investigation report revealed that the Chinese contractors had impregnated some underage girls.
“The Chinese impregnated the girls. World Bank said we are cutting off the funding. Really? You punish 3m people because of these Chinese people? We decided to fund the road using government money and completed it,” he said.
The inside story about the recent Central Executive Committee meeting to dismiss the Secretary General.
WEDNESDAY, 22 OCTOBER 2014
WRITTEN BY EDRIS KIGGUNDU & SADAB KITATTA KAAYA
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Museveni said he was in possession of files compiled by
Mbabazi and wife and secretly stored in the
North American Embassy( USA), Kampala.
To some witnesses, Amama Mbabazi’s ouster as secretary general on October 18 provoked the most intense exchange in the history of the NRM Central Executive Committee (CEC) probably since this committee was officially formed in 2005.
Sitting at Nakasero State Lodge, the day’s agenda was to break Mbabazi and possibly force him to resign immediately as NRM secretary general. Yet unknown to many, Mbabazi and his wife Jacqueline had assembled an arsenal of verbal artillery that would make the ouster harder.
The main actors in Saturday’s meeting, according to our sources, were President Museveni and Jacqueline Mbabazi (head, Women League) with Maj Gen Matayo Kyaligonza (Vice chairman Western) playing the key supporting role for the president and Mbabazi lawyering for his wife.
The setting in the conference room was perfect. Museveni sat at the tip of the long boardroom table next to Hajji Moses Kigongo, the NRM first national vice chairman. Mbabazi and Jacqueline sat on opposite sides of the table, almost directly facing each other.
Meeting starts
Museveni called the members to order at 11am and informed them that they wanted to resolve the Mbabazi question by close of the meeting, our sources said.
“We are not leaving this meeting until we find a solution to this issue of secretary general. We spent so much time on Thursday [October 16] going around in circles but today we have to end it here,” Museveni said, alluding to the earlier CEC meeting.
Museveni then motioned an aide who ferried in a number of voluminous files and placed them in front of him.
“I got these from my American friends and they contain all the evidence to show that Mbabazi and Jacqueline have been working against me and the party,” he said as he tapped the files with both hands, our sources said.
Museveni added that the documents before him had been compiled by Mbabazi and wife and kept at the American embassy. He reportedly said his “contacts” at the embassy helped him retrieve the files. He said each of the CEC members would receive a copy of the documents to learn the extent to which Mbabazi and Jacqueline had gone to undermine him.
But Moses Kigongo advised against the distribution of the documents. There were also fears, according to sources, that if the documents were distributed, some of them would end up in the media. Museveni bought into Kigongo’s suggestion and decided, instead, to talk about the contents of some of the documents.
He then brandished a document, reportedly written by Jacqueline and containing names of people the Mbabazis considered political adversaries. These names, our sources said, included Gen Kale Kayihura (police chief), Brig Moses Rwakitarate, and the First Son Muhoozi Kainerugaba. However, before he could reveal any more names, Jacqueline shot up.
“You say we are campaigning against you. Is that a crime? You started campaigning immediately after the 2011 elections. You have been going around the country meeting people. What crime have we committed by campaigning?” she said, as the room fell into deafening silence.
Museveni shot back saying his countrywide tours were part of his national duty, and not a campaign ploy At this point, our sources said, Museveni stopped referring to the files and the meeting took a trend similar to that of October 16.
Self-importance
Kyaligonza jumped into the fray and accused the Mbabazis of having the airs of self-importance. He said he had read with disgust an article in Daily Monitor in which Jacqueline’s father Reverend Geresomu Ruhindi, had accused Museveni of using and dumping Mbabazi.
“Did Ruhindi fight? Does he know what we went through in the bush? You people were busy in Nairobi eating sausages and stealing our money. Should we have sympathy for you? Can I remove my trouser and show you the bullet wounds?”a charged Kyaligonza asked.
Hassan Basajjabalaba (Entrepreneurs’ League) urged caution. He told Kyaligonza that he didn’t need to use harsh language to make his point.
“President Museveni and Mbabazi have known each other for 43 years. In fact Museveni has known Mbabazi longer than he has known you (Kyaligonza). In my view, I think both of these people should sit together and reconcile,” Basajjabalaba said, ticking off an already livid Kyaligonza. The two engaged in a verbal exchange that ended with mineral water bottles being thrown.
The meeting soon split into camps with five of the 24-members siding with the Mbabazis, while Mike Mukula (Eastern), Jim Muhwezi (Veterans), Francis Babu (Kampala), Amelia Kyambadde (Treasurer) and Kasule Lumumba (Chief Whip) joined Kyaligonza to lead the charge against the Mbabazis.
Kirunda Kivejinja (elders) had a neutralizing effect. He went as far as accusing Museveni of using the NRM Parliamentary caucus to usurp powers of all the party organs.
“The chairman should stop using his caucus to usurp the authority of all organs; I think the organs should be allowed to do their work,” Kivejinja reportedly said.
All the while Museveni was looking on, occasionally taking some notes, the sources said.
Later, Museveni invited Rebecca Garang, the widow of the founding president of South Sudan Dr (Col) John Garang to address the members, briefly. Rebecca told the members that disunity in NRM especially amongst its top leadership could create chaos. She gave the example of her country, South Sudan, now gripped by war that erupted last year partly because of disagreements within the leadership of SPLA/M.
After her submission, Jacqueline retook the floor. She detailed how Museveni had orchestrated a campaign to fight her husband by proxy through other party members. She said Museveni always fights those with ambition in NRM, citing Dr Kizza Besigye as an example. She wondered whether the country would come to a standstill if Museveni was no longer president.
“Why do you fear competition?” she queried, according to our sources.
She said Museveni had now sent out some ministers to the countryside to meet NRM grassroots leaders, in an effort to demonize her husaband further.
“I know that you gave them Shs 2 billion to go around. But let me hope that what they report back is the truth. The truth is that people are tired. People want change,” she reportedly said as Museveni took down a few notes.
Jacqueline said the day presidential term limits were removed from the Constitution in 2005, was the day the country was buried, politically.
“I know my husband and sister [Hope Mwesigye] were involved in this but I always opposed them. Ask him. I remember the day Parliament voted; I was at home watching television. Then when my husband and sister came home to celebrate, I told them there is no food for you,” she said.
“I did not give him food,” she emphasized.

Bold and daring: Jacqueline Mbabazi did not mince her words
At that juncture, one male member is reported to have sought clarification, asking: “Did you also deny him the other food?”
If the cheeky member had hoped to use humour to ease the tension, it did not work. One insider source said it was the first time he had heard and seen someone take on Museveni so feverishly and boldly.
“I thought that Jacqueline was going to be put under arrest,” said the source.
In a raised voice, Museveni responded that he had kept quiet for a long time as the Mbabazis abused his family. He singled out Nina Mbabazi for her articles in newspapers and posts on social media, which allegedly denigrated the party and his family (Nina used to write a column in Sunday Monitor).
“In fact one time, Natasha [president’s daughter] came to me and said, why do we keep quiet when this girl abuses us? She said she was going to write back. But I told her that unless I am not the son of Kaguta, she should not write back,” Museveni said.
Museveni also rubbished claims that he had stayed way too long in power, pointing to the Mbabazis longevity too in the struggle.
“You remember the first time I came to your house, in 1976. You served me tea. Were you not part of the struggle?” he asked.
Stale talk
Museveni then went into the history of NRM’s rise to power. He received support from Kyaligonza and Muhwezi, who reminded the meeting that for NRM to come to power, they had shed their blood. This prompted Denis Namara (Youths) to tell them to end the bush-war stories and instead focus on issues that concern the youths.
“The youths are tired of hearing the story of the bush [war] because it is not relevant to them,” Namara said.
He, however, drew the ire of Kyambadde (treasurer) who said the bush-war heroes (including herself) could not allow to be disrespected by the youths. At 4pm, the members took a break and as they walked out of the conference room, Kyaligonza seized Jacqueline’s hand.
“Where are you taking my wife?” Mbabazi asked.
Mbabazi, Rugunda speak out
Mbabazi, who had been quiet but looked dejected, then spoke when the meeting resumed. He told the meeting that he hated injustice and unfairness. He said he studied law after witnessing someone attempt to steal his father’s land. He then questioned whether it was wrong for someone to express ambition within the NRM.
Museveni then quipped that “it is not wrong to have ambition but how one expresses it is the point.”
Dr Ruhakana Rugunda, the prime minister, is reported to have narrated how he had known Mbabazi almost since childhood. He said the two were close friends as well as business associates. What intrigued him, he said, was the fact that Mbabazi was not speaking his mind like “a real Mukiga.”
“I want my good friend [Mbabazi] to tell the meeting here and now, whether he intends to stand for the presidency.”
Mbabazi, with hand on his cheek, just stared at Rugunda without offering any response. At about 5:30pm, Museveni excused himself and rushed to Mulago hospital to officially flag off the reconstruction works there. He instructed the members not to leave.
He came back towards 7pm and the meeting resumed. Fred Mukisa (Elders) and Kasule Lumumba then told the meeting how Mbabazi had bought vehicles for his mobilisers in their respective areas. They each read out the registration number plates of the vehicles. As the meeting drew to a close towards midnight, Museveni reminded them that they had to conclude the Mbabazi matter.
At this point, some people were really exhausted and some had tight schedules the next day. Sam Engola (Vice-chairman, Northern Uganda), for instance, reminded the president that he had to travel to Apac that night to be able to welcome him to the district the next day (October 19) for the consecration of the bishop of West Lango diocese, the Rt Rev Canon Alfred Acur Okudi.
To resolve the Mbabazi impasse, Engola suggested that members vote by show of hands, whether or not Mbabazi should stay on as secretary general. Some members bought this idea but Mbabazi warned that he would sue the party if CEC endorsed an illegality. He said he was elected by the delegates’ conference, and not CEC. Museveni conceded and fished for an alternative solution.
Then the idea of Mbabazi writing a letter, taking administrative leave as secretary general for three months was floated. “Since you are a lawyer and the matter concerns you, I want you to draft the letter,” Museveni told Mbabazi as he handed him a piece of paper.
The first draft, according to our sources, was rejected, because it did not explicitly say that he would relinquish the duties of secretary general, while on leave. Sources said that Mbabazi had created a loophole that would allow him to have a say on some [party] matters while on leave. Museveni then told Muhwezi (Veterans) to airbrush it and effect changes.
After Muhwezi made the changes, it was debated briefly before members adopted it. Museveni then told the members that there would be an emergency delegates’ conference on December 15 where wholesome changes would be effected to the NRM constitution, including allowing the party chairman to appoint a secretary general. He told CEC that the conference would cost Shs 5 billion, which he would “look for.”
Later, Museveni proposed that all CEC members should take a group photo, to leave no room for anyone to disown what was discussed in the meeting.
“I am going to call [Robert] Kabushega and tell him to publish this photograph,” Museveni said insisting that Mbabazi should stand next to him.
By the end of the meeting, Museveni appeared as if he had scored one over Mbabazi. Indeed, on Monday, Mbabazi wrote to Museveni informing him that he had taken leave till December 31.
“As you are aware, I have been performing the duties of Secretary General of NRM without a break for the last nine years, I wish now to take leave of absence from duty from October 20 until December 31,” Mbabazi wrote.
Sacked as prime minister on September 18 and now hounded out as secretary general, some observers have opined that Mbabazi might be on his way out of NRM.
Yet the fact that he has so far given away little as regards his presidential ambitions means there could still be more intriguing twists and turns to this political tale.
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Military Genero wa Kagame owe Ruanda mukwate mu Bungereza:Kampala | Jun 24, 2015
Bya Musasi Waffe
PULEZIDENTI wa Rwanda, Paul Kagame ali mu kasattiro oluvannyuma lwa Genero we abadde akulira eby’ekikessi, okumukwatira e Bungereza ku gy’okutta abantu.
Gen. Emmanuel Karenzi Karake, 54, nga y’akulira ekitongole ekikessi mu Rwanda ekya National Intelligence and Security Services (NISS), abazungu baamuvumbagidde alinnya ennyonyi ku kisaawe ky’e Heathrow mu London ku Lwomukaaga empingu ne ziruma.
Baamubuuzizza kajjogijjogi w’ebibuuzo era bwe baakakasizza nti y’oyo gwe babadde beetaaga, ne bassaawo olutuula lwa kkooti olw’enjawulo ku Ssande ne bamusomera emisango egimukwasizza.
Yakwatiddwa ku biwandiiko ‘bakuntumye’ ebyafulumizibwa Omulamuzi Fernando Andreu owa kkooti e Spain mu 2008 nti amulabako yenna amukwate aweerezebwe e Spain avunaanibwe okutta abantu mu Rwanda.
Omulamuzi wa Bungereza naye yayongedde okumubuuza ebibuuzo okukakasa nti y’oyo eyeetaagibwa kkooti, era bwe yakakasizza nti y’oyo ddala; kwe kusalawo azzibwe mu kaduukulu bamukomyewo ku Lwokuna (enkya), lw’agenda okuzzibwa mu kkooti ategeezebwe ku nteekateeka ez’okumukwasa gavumenti ya Spain abitebye.
OBUJULIZI BUZINGIRAMU KAGAME
Bannamagye ba Rwanda 40 abagambibwa okwenyigira mu kutta abantu wakati wa 1994 ne 2000 be bassibwa ku lukalala lw’abeetaagibwa kkooti ya Spain.
Ku lukalala luno kuliko ne Minisita wa Kagame ow’ebyokwerinda, James Kabarebe era naye asattira.
Emisango egikwasizza Gen. Karenzi gyawaabwa mu 2005 ekibiina ky’obwannakyewa ekirwanirizi ky’eddembe (African Human Rights Group) nga kimulumiriza ne banne 39 okwenyigira mu kutta abantu ekirindi nti era ne mu be batta baatwaliramu ne bannansi ba Spain 9 abaali basindikiddwa e Rwanda okuyambako mu kukuuma emirembe.
Mu mpaaba ey’emiko 182, Kagame naye bamwogerako nti alina ky’amanyi ku butemu obwakolebwa abajaasi be, wabula tebaamuteeka ku lukalala lw’abavunaanibwa kuba mu kiseera kino akyali Pulezidenti.
Oludda oluwaabi lulaga nti lulina enteekateeka ezizuukusa emisango ku Kagame amangu ddala ng’avudde mu buyinza. Kkooti y’ensi yonna (ICC) yokka y’erina obuyinza obuvunaana Pulezidenti ng’akyali mu buyinza nga bwe kiri ku wa Sudan Omar el Bashir.
Mu kiseera kino, abawagira Kagame e Rwanda bali mu nteekateeka eggyawo ekkomo ku bisanja kimusobozese okwesimbawo okwetangira ebizibu nga bino.
Mu mateeka g’ensi yonna, omuntu oba ekitongole kisobola okuggulawo emisango naddala egirimu okutta abantu ekirindi ku bakulembeze abatakwatibwako mu nsi zaabwe nga bagiggulirawo mu mawanga amalala era kkooti n’eyisa ebibaluwa ebimukwata.
Enkola eno gye bayita “Universal Jurisdiction” mwe baayita okukwata eyali Pulezidenti wa Chile, Augusto Pinochet. Ono naye baamukwatira London ng’ebiwandiiko ebimukwata byayisibwa kkooti y’e Spain mu 1998. Wadde ensi endala nazo zikozesa etteeka lino, Spain yeegulidde nnyo erinnya mu kulikozesa.
Gen. Karenzi ye munnamagye wa Kagame owookubiri okukwatibwa mu ngeri eno; eyasooka yali Col. Rose Kabuye gwe baakwatira e Germany mu 2008.
Col. Kabuye yali akola mu ofiisi ya Pulezidenti Kagame wabula oluvannyuma lw’enteeseganya wakati wa Rwanda ne Germany, omusibe yayimbulwa n’adda ku butaka.
KAGAME AYOGEDDE N’OWA BUNGEREZA
Amangu ddala nga Kagame ategeezeddwa nti Genero we bamuggalidde mu kkomera e Bungereza, yatandikiddewo okusala amagezi agamutaasa.
Emikutu gy’amawulire egimu gyategeezezza nti Kagame yakubidde Katikkiro wa Bungereza, David Cameron, essimu ne boogerera akaseera ku bya Gen. Karenzi.
Wadde ebyavuddemu tebyafulumiziddwa mu butongole, ensonda mu gavumenti ya Rwanda zaalaze nti Cameron yasuubizza kwetegereza nsonga eno, ekitaawadde nnyo Kagame ssuubi.
Omukutu gwa ABC News gwategeezezza nti ekisinze okweraliikiriza Rwanda ye kkooti eteekateeka okutwala Karenzi mu maaso g’Omulamuzi ku Lwokuna, ate nga baabadde balowooza nti engeri abakulu bombi gye boogedde, wa kuyimbulwa adde e Kigali.
Minisita wa Rwanda ow’ebyamateeka, Johnston Busingye yagambye nti basazeewo okuyungula bannamateeka bonna abeetagisa okununula Karenzi aleme na kutwalibwa Spain gye baamuggulirako emisango.
Ate minisita w’ensonga ez’Ebweru, Louise Mushikiwabo yatabukidde Abazungu n’agamba nti bino babikola kuyisa lugaayu mu mawanga ga Afrika nti era kino tekyawukana ku kye baakola ku Pulezidenti wa Kenya, Uhuru Kenyatta, n’agattako nti amawanga ga Afrika galina okulwanira awamu kino kikome kati!
Bamulumiriza ne ku by’e Congo
Ng’oggyeeko omusango ogw’okutta Bannansi ba Spain, lipoota y’ekibiina ekirwanirizi ky’eddembe ly’obuntu ekya Human Rights Watch (HRW) eya 2007 ewa ku Gen. Karenzi obujulizi nti yeenyigira mu kutta abantu baabulijjo mu DR Congo mu kibuga Kishangani mu lutalo olwaliyo mu 2000, Rwanda ne Uganda bwe zaakubaganira mu kibuga kino.
Gen. Karenzi amanyiddwa ennyo nga K.K mu Rwanda, era ayogerwako ng’ow’embazuulu. Mu 2010, Kagame yalagira n’akwatibwa olw’okusiiwuuka empisa n’aggalirwa mu maka ge okumala akaseera okutuusa lwe yasonyiyibwa n’azzibwa ku mulimu.
Busingye yagambye nti bagenda kukozesa amakubo abiri (2) okununula Karenzi okuli erya kkooti wamu n’enteeseganya z’abakulembeze b’amawanga gombi era basuubira nti amakubo ago ga kuyamba omuntu waabwe aleme kuweerezebwa Spain.